Anonymous. You still haven't told me how you bend your knees so your shins are at an angle 45 degrees including your feet with your upper body verticle. How do you propose you have your body in front of your knees. Either you are leaning forward, or your knees are straight. Both of which are incorrect.

"Anonymous. You still haven't told me how you bend your knees so your shins are at an angle 45 degrees including your feet with your upper body verticle. How do you propose you have your body in front of your knees. Either you are leaning forward, or your knees are straight. Both of which are incorrect."

I don't. When the standing knee bends, I put my body ahead of my feet, vertically aligned and positioned OVER my standing knee, which has bent forwards. The forward of knee comment was a typo, as I already pointed out.

On the other hand, in actions where the knee has not yet bent, the body might very well be AHEAD of the knee.

Anonymous. I asked if after bending your knees is your body behind the knee or not.
From the way you write I believe you are bending your knee far too late. Which is understandable considering you questioned the bending of the knee to give an angle of 45 degrees between the shin to the floor in the first place.which you now embrace.Do you remember.
I'll ask the first question again. After bending the knee to give the shin its 45 degrees . Is your body in front or is it behind the knee. Also what is it in the pictures either moving or still.

"Anonymous. I asked if after bending your knees is your body behind the knee or not."

Already answered:

"When the standing knee bends, I put my body ahead of my feet, vertically aligned and positioned OVER my standing knee, which has bent forwards"

I don't know what happened there. My message took of before I finished.The last sentence should read. Tell me what is it in the technique book you can't or don't understand.

"I don't know what happened there. My message took of before I finished.The last sentence should read. Tell me what is it in the technique book you can't or don't understand."

Not all disagreements come from misunderstanding.

Anonymous. Haven't a clue what you are on about. If it is in the book then you are correct. If it isn't you are wrong. Just one step in the Waltz. Forward RF. Lower the toe to the floor. Bring the left foot to the RF flex the knee and then step to the side on the toe.If you are turning then turn about a quarter of a turn on the RF. If you are going Forward as you would on a Three Step with the two heel leads. Or after your Preperation step into a Feather, two heel leads. Step forward on the LF. RF moves under the body. Step Forward RF. LF moves under the body and then onto the first quick of the Feather Step on the toe .
Unless you are going to write your own book. I don't see anything to back you up in this one.Tell me what is it in the technique book you can't or don

"Anonymous. Haven't a clue what you are on about. If it is in the book then you are correct. If it isn't you are wrong."

You have an infantile fascination with the textbook.

A REAL DANCER has been around enough, studied with enough top teachers, etc, to know that nothing is done quite the way the book says. What is in the book is just the starting point for dicussion - but there is more to the story, which is not written down anywhere.

But perhaps what is in the book is all that you can handle right now.

"""Phil. Have you tried to stand left side leading with strong CBMP."""
Of course i have.
"""We do know that we don't alter our top shoulders over hips. The whole side turns evenly""""
That simply is not what i see on pohots, nor in videos.
"""With my left side leading how on earth can I turn my hips to the left and leave my shoulders where they are.""""
I simply don't understand why you're having so much difficulty with this. I suspect you are turning your hips relative to your shouldrs without realising it.
Try this experiment. Stand at 45 degrees to the line of dance (facing DW)with your shoulders rigidly fixed above your hips. get someone to put their hands on your back to make sure your spine doesn't rotate at all. Now place your right foot down the line of dance. can you do a good toe lead? does it feel comfortable and fluid? Bend your knees as much as you like.

I don't usually reply to my own messages but since making the aboce posting, i went to the learninr centre on this site to look at the feather step .Frame by frame. Step 3 in CBMP - there is a clear rotation of the hips relative to the shoulders. There has to be.